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	<title>King of the Potato People &#187; bt wholesale</title>
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		<title>Just how dumb are BT Wholesale?</title>
		<link>http://www.potato-people.com/blog/2010/06/just-how-dumb-are-bt-wholesale/</link>
		<comments>http://www.potato-people.com/blog/2010/06/just-how-dumb-are-bt-wholesale/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ISP]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[adsl]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[They tried to requote us for their 21CN broadband platform, assuming we take it in London as they wanted to charge us 50p per meter all the way from Manchester to Belfast (totaling some £250k). After carefully examining our current installation they decided that we should replace our pair of 34Mb pipes with a single [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They tried to requote us for their 21CN broadband platform, assuming we take it in London as they wanted to charge us 50p per meter all the way from Manchester to Belfast (totaling some £250k). After carefully examining our current installation they decided that we should replace our pair of 34Mb pipes with a single pipe containing:</p>
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<li>20 users on 24Mb ADSL sharing just 1Mb of bandwidth.</li>
<li>All other users sharing 30Mb of bandwidth on old 20CN 8Mb ADSL.</li>
<li>Added in enhanced care for all users at £8 a go.</li>
<li>Forgot monthly broadband line rental charges at £7.90 a go.</li>
<li>Will charge us for bandwidth across the 21CN network, plus charges for 3km of fibre across the London Docklands and we have to provide the BRAS &#8211; but yet they still have the balls to charge us £24k a year just for the privilege of doing business with the almighty BT Wholesale. Seriously, noone can explain what this charge is for given that they have separate charges for both bandwidth and fibre.</li>
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<p>When I entered the correct figures into their shitty little price sheet, added in all the things they forgot, it came to a whopping £26 per user <em>before</em> any profit margin is added.</p>
<p>By comparison, Be/Fluidata is charging a non-recurring £3k to setup a simple crossconnect in any London Telehouse, and then all we pay are simple line charges depending on the product used, the average one of which is £16 per month.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite clear that BT Wholesale is not interested in providing any sort of service to other service providers. The ridiculous ordering/faults system, the outright denial of clear area-wide faults and now these ridiculous and quite arbitrary charges for access to their so-called 21st Century Network that still doesn&#8217;t properly support IPv6 are all very telling.</p>
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		<title>BT Fail :: Part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.potato-people.com/blog/2010/01/bt-fail-part-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new level of fail from our friends at BT Wholesale. They have actually willingly provided proof that they do not read fault reports the first time around: Yes.. that is a grand total of 43 seconds from reporting the fault to BT Wholesale rejecting it. This was even reported via KBD, which lets you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new level of fail from our friends at BT Wholesale. They have actually willingly provided proof that they do not read fault reports the first time around:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.potato-people.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/btfail21.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-92" title="btfail2" src="http://www.potato-people.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/btfail21.png" alt="" width="571" height="276" /></a></p>
<p>Yes.. that is a grand total of 43 seconds from reporting the fault to BT Wholesale rejecting it. This was even reported via KBD, which lets you confirm that the user has already attempted to replace his router, cables, filters and even tried from the test socket. 43 seconds is not enough time for most people to type that long-winded reply about SFI appointments, let alone for BT to run the necessary diagnostics to determine if there is a fault or not.</p>
<p>At my place of work we have suspected that BT was doing this for a long time as all too often, and 9 times out of 10 blatently obvious faults are rejected with the message &#8220;not due to a network fault&#8221;. Now I have a handful of faults, some where it was customer some, but some where there was genuine faults such as the DSLAM being faulty where BT has denied anything being wrong and cleared the fault in less than a minute.</p>
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		<title>BT Fail :: A new level of failure</title>
		<link>http://www.potato-people.com/blog/2009/12/bt-fail-a-new-level-of-failure/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ISP]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[bt fail]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[incompetent morons]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Customer complains of a fault. I diagnose and determine that the customer is doing nothing wrong, and it&#8217;s probably a line fault. BT&#8217;s response is near instant, lambasting me for reporting what is clearly not a BTW (BT Wholesale) fault. An entire day later, they update it to say that there&#8217;s a fault with the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customer complains of a fault. I diagnose and determine that the customer is doing nothing wrong, and it&#8217;s probably a line fault. BT&#8217;s response is near instant, lambasting me for reporting what is clearly not a BTW (BT Wholesale) fault. An entire day later, they update it to say that there&#8217;s a fault with the DSLAM. This is of course long after I&#8217;ve told the customer there must be something wrong on their end as BT says there&#8217;s no fault.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder that people think their ISPs are incompetant and BT can do no wrong? It&#8217;s because when BT has a fault they have the ability to actually go and look at the DSLAM and see for themselves. When anyone else has a fault, they have to rely on the BT Wholesale broadband diagnostics systems which are quite frankly, half assed and go down more often than a thai hooker.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.potato-people.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/BTfail1.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-88" title="BTfail1" src="http://www.potato-people.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/BTfail1.png" alt="" width="720" height="344" /></a></p>
<p>This is what happens when someone has a monopoly but are mandated to supply wholesaler services to others to make it look like they don&#8217;t have a monopoly. Their own service is perfect and can do no wrong, while all those wholesalers can scream and shout and cry about the godawful service they&#8217;re being given.</p>
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